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Wow! So NOT the party of the working class.

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Editor's Note: Buzz Davis is a Vietnam era veteran and long-time Wisconsin peace activist, who now lives in Arizona. He sent this to me in an email and I suggested we post it in the comments and he agreed. In such difficult times, we need to talk and listen to each other. Peace, Buzz. -- MT

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Hello All I watched the woman speak. I am glad she has figured out/learned what we are up against. I admit it is disheartening. But we must not let it be devastating. And I hope it is a real video not a fixed one.

I have been involved in Dem. politics since about the early 1970's, as a campaign helper, as a candidates 7 times and elected official, attending and leading many resolution efforts at WI state Dem. conventions, 30 years of leading a progressive group in my community etc.

There are three breeds of Dems.

1. The national and state level "leaders" in the Party which might more correctly be called "followers." These are people who follow orders from HQ. And the HQ are in executive suites.

2. The thousands of persons who help Dem county organizations and then those fewer (hundreds) who attend the state conventions. These are the people who are the "good" Democrats as I would call them. These are the good card carrying Dems who do all the work and give the party energy.

3. Then we have the thousands of citizens who help or attend the Dem. candidates events, lit drops, calling, etc. Nearly all of these people are the non-card carrying Dems. These are the people who would never dream of paying dues to such and organization that has so much rot and power playing.

4. Lastly, we have the people who end up voting Dem hoping to elect good people. These folks vote Dem for decades but decide they really don't want to get involve more. Their attitude is kind of like I appreciate the people who work so hard 7 days a week to keep our sewer systems working to get rid of human waste but I don't want to have anything to do with that municipal sewer system myself. That is what many think of political parties.

In world history as I have read it and seen operations in my own life as a military officer, in grad schools, as a government worker, as an elected official, as a union leader humans are just humans. Some are fantastic, most are good or trying to be good, most know which side of the bread in buttered, a few are massive liars, some are ass kissers, some are killers, and the best do NOT -- 98% of the time rise to the top.

Our system is rigged for those with wealth and therefore power when they use that wealth to spread it around to get their power.

We know what needs to be done to repair our democracy and our governments, our corporations, our schools, our unions, our communities, etc. We must keep on trying to do the best we can with these living things called human beings.

Money tends to corrupt. We have removed most of the money from campaigns with public financing of campaigns. Each of these reform efforts get crushed by the legislatures and interest groups.

There are many other "reforms" and many work and some sort of work. But those in office and special interests (the rich and the corporations, etc.) kill the reforms as best they can. And they usually can.

The multi party system is used in many democracies and that system also has it pitfalls when too many parties start cutting up the turf. like 4 or 6 or 7 parties (Italy, eastern Europe, Germany, etc.).

As they say the grass is always greener on the other side of the street --- until you get there.

But all that said, we are at or near the bottom of the pit with our present democracy.

Oh, where are the Fighting Bob LaFollette Progressives of the late1800's when both parties were run by corrupt political machines and the Progressives Fought Back and made many reforms????

Well you are they ---- if you fight back!

In WI we got Sanders like 57% of the Dem primary vote for president in 2016. The "people" understand what needs to be done and they voted for him/reform. But then the corrupt sleaze folks take over with their tricks and money tricks and media tricks and people like Clinton "win." And then people like Trump win.

What will happen Nov. 5th --- no one knows........ a peace transition of power or insurrection or civil disturbances and deaths. I do not know.

Most democracies have been corrupted and broken by greed, wealth, lying etc. over history. Athens democracy lasted a 100 or 200 years as did Rome's democracy (both built to run empires and based upon slavery and serfdom with only a few select good people citizens who could vote. Does it sound like American in the late 1700's and 1800's?? Yes you are right.)

We are each human and some days we are wonderfully human and some days despicably human.

Personally I would like to vote for Jill Stein. BUT for myself I try to look to the future and think what is best to do so that maybe the little kids living today can grow up to fight back better than we have. And with out the crummy system called democracy, you and I will find out what it is like to live in most of the nations of this world. Kings, queens, dictators or presidents for life, communism, religious systems just do not work though all those systems have had bright spots. But mostly they all have down sides with crush most of the people.

So I will stick with the present slop we call democracy in America. But please remember the slop is at the top and not so much in most other places in our democracy.

As Studs Terkel says Hope Dies Last. So keep up the hope or we and you are finished.

Peace! Buzz Davis, member Veterans for Peace in Tucson

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